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Page 1 of 1 <br /> 1- 10 - C, _ - <br /> DAUT Myrnie L <br /> From: Ron Cramer [Ron @CRAMERGILES.com] <br /> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:58 AM <br /> To: DAUT Myrnie L (E -mail) <br /> Subject: FW: athletic fields and skate parks <br /> Here is the pro and cons I sent to Bob. Congratulations to Peter! <br /> Original Message <br /> From: Ron Cramer <br /> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:33 AM <br /> To: Robert H Lilly (E -mail) <br /> Subject: athletic fields and skate parks <br /> Re pros and cons of the proposal I made to have the City handle the skate parks and 4j handling the athletic <br /> fields. <br /> City pro <br /> separates as much as possible the two types of facilities. <br /> they are in the business of maintaining parks and have the staff trained to do so <br /> parks are small and compact and in full view of neighbors so managing should be easy. <br /> only exposure for athletic fields is during cities own use. <br /> catastrophe exposure on parks less than athletic fields <br /> only 2 parks versus 4 athletic fields <br /> property values low and damageability low thus premiums will be very cheap <br /> huge 'assumption of risk' defense available to help with denying claims <br /> City Con <br /> park usage consists of mostly unknown users -not much organized use thus City cant get certs and <br /> H /Harmless clauses <br /> stuck with park design exposure despite 4j having had a hand in it <br /> more frequency of injuries is suspected <br /> vandalism and maintenance probably high <br /> 4j pro <br /> separates 4j from the park risks <br /> have been in business of managing athletic fields thus prepared to do the same here <br /> big user is City and they will be on most exposures created by their organized use <br /> Risk is close to existing facilities easier to police and manage. <br /> not much nonorganized usage without certs and H /H. <br /> 4j con <br /> huge facilities with grandstands. <br /> twice as many as the parks. <br /> property values way more than parks thus premiums higher <br /> 4j probably going to get more vandalism at schools due to more kids hanging around parks <br /> stuck with design exposure despite City having had a hand in it <br /> Bob, I didn't mention this before but the loss of use exposure would fall to each respective entity. In other <br /> words if the stadium burned up and the City cant use it the cost of finding another facility falls on the city <br /> even if the loss caused by 4j and vice versa. don't see much of this exposure on the parks. <br /> also remember there is a one year honey moon on this deal. <br /> 11/9/00 <br />